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Post by Admin on May 7, 2018 22:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2018 22:58:04 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2018 23:19:27 GMT -5
Brad gets T'd up - and doesn't want to talk about it By Justin Quinn
You can get Brad Stevens riled enough to get a technical foul, but you won't get him badmouthing refs in the post-game.And he's right to suggest the Philadelphia 76ers deserve the credit for adjusting and taking advantage of the friendly whistles in the first three quarters.The many friendly whistles.Sure, by the end of the game, fouls were less egregious than in the first half - at one point the Boston Celtics had 16 to Philly's 8 - but Brad does have a point that the team should not be letting itself into that position in the first place. Tin-foil hat conspiracies aside, talking a little too much smack about the refs (deserved or no) will also cost you, so Brad eschewing a deep dive into his tech or the refereeing in general is understandable - as is the desire of the league to extend what was looking to be a very brief Eastern Conference Semifinals with the Cleveland Cavaliers poised to sweep the Toronto Raptors later in the evening. The question on many of our minds is - are we seeing this game through green-tinted lenses, or was that a bit of a hack-job to keep the 76ers in the game when Boston threatened to run away with the game late in the first half? Watch the videos below to hear Brad Stevens' thoughts on the officiating and game in general, and to see the exchange that would lead to Stevens' technical fouls. www.celticslife.com/2018/05/watch-brad-gets-td-up-and-doesnt-want.html
PS: Embiid's funny guy routine isn't so funny anymore when you see him as the instigator then making light of the other guy
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2018 0:04:50 GMT -5
Boston Celtics fans on officiating in Game 4 vs. Philadelphia 76ers: 'The refs are unbearable'By Mark Chiarelli The 76ers beat the Celtics, 103-92, Monday night in Game 4, prolonging the series in a possible elimination game. Many Celtics fans took umbrage with the officiating in Monday's loss. In total, there were 51 fouls called between both teams. Technicals were also called on Brad Stevens and Jaylen Brown. Onto some of the best barbs after a frustrating night for Celtics fans. www.masslive.com/expo/erry-2018/05/12ceca8d424257/boston_celtics_fans_on_officia.html#incart_river_index
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2018 0:42:50 GMT -5
Game 5 Odds:
Vegas Insider shows, the line on the game opened with the 76ers as one-point favorites and on almost all sites it has already jumped to -1.5 in favor of Philly.
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Post by petey62 on May 8, 2018 7:11:11 GMT -5
I'm sorry but, in spite of all that, the Celtics still had an opportunity to close this thing out. And they should have.
I don't believe Rozier was fully engaged throughout. When you have the amount of talent and confidence he has, there is no way you perform mediocre offensively ALL WHILE allowing, defensively, T.J. McConnell (I said T.J. McConnell) to have the night he had (a career night). That cannot happen when you want to close out someone.
And, here we go again, Al Horford. This guy is an enigma. For the life of me, how can he go a game taking only 6 shots? He had 2 fewer TURNOVERS than he did SHOTS ATTEMPTED. This is a CLOSE OUT game and I cannot understand how he doesn't come out aggressive.
And we got absolutely nothing from Jaylen Brown and our center took 6 of his 7 shots from 3-point range. It seemed, at times, like we were really NOT trying to win last night.
There is no way this series should not be over. We really need to bear down tomorrow and close this team out.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 8, 2018 8:55:33 GMT -5
Petey...the team knew the score before the game even started...Celts have lost their last seven playoff games officiated by that crew...just wait until we play LeQueen...gonna be tough to watch
super early game here in the west, but I did not even bother to dvr it...knew how it was going to go...stopped watching the NBA for the down years of the Celts cuz it is so much like the WWF...watching now, but it is painful...you know the NBA steers it, and the refs know their job...
I assume Cleveland swept last night, so this was the only way the NBA could get one more game...
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Post by petey62 on May 8, 2018 9:20:03 GMT -5
elvis, I'm a firm believer that officiating doesn't lose games for teams. There were some horrible calls on both teams......seemed like more on the Celtics. They tend to balance themselves out though. Only five more personal fouls were called on the Celtics than were on the Sixers. Both teams attempted 26 free throws. They outscored us by 1 point at the FT line.
I know if you injected Adam Silver with truth serum, he'd admit to wanting the series to drag out to six or seven games. But honestly, better performances by Rozier, Horford and Brown would be enough to negate any NBA agenda last night.
I'm sure the NBA wanted the CLE vs TOR series to go a few more games too but when you have players determined to end it, you get the result you saw in Cleveland - a resounding 35 point whupping of TOR.
I trust we'll take care of business at TD tomorrow night.
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Post by kyceltic on May 8, 2018 9:27:37 GMT -5
Refs didn't beat us, we weren't ready to play last night! That happens sometimes, we were up 3 to 0, there was no sense of urgency. We'll close them out next game! This is a very young team, it's easy to be over confident, and that's what happened last night! Brad will make sure it doesn't happen again!!
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Post by kyceltic on May 8, 2018 9:29:37 GMT -5
elvis, I'm a firm believer that officiating doesn't lose games for teams. There were some horrible calls on both teams......seemed like more on the Celtics. They tend to balance themselves out though. Only five more personal fouls were called on the Celtics than were on the Sixers. Both teams attempted 26 free throws. They outscored us by 1 point at the FT line. I know if you injected Adam Silver with truth serum, he'd admit to wanting the series to drag out to six or seven games. But honestly, better performances by Rozier, Horford and Brown would be enough to negate any NBA agenda last night. I'm sure the NBA wanted the CLE vs TOR series to go a few more games too but when you have players determined to end it, you get the result you saw in Cleveland - a resounding 35 point whupping of TOR. I trust we'll take care of business at TD tomorrow night. couldn't agree more!!
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Post by puddin on May 8, 2018 9:43:50 GMT -5
Petey...the team knew the score before the game even started...Celts have lost their last seven playoff games officiated by that crew...just wait until we play LeQueen...gonna be tough to watch
super early game here in the west, but I did not even bother to dvr it...knew how it was going to go...stopped watching the NBA for the down years of the Celts cuz it is so much like the WWF...watching now, but it is painful...you know the NBA steers it, and the refs know their job...
I assume Cleveland swept last night, so this was the only way the NBA could get one more game... elvis... sounds to me based on what you say that the NBA POs is based on the WWF model. So how is the next game going to go? Any reason to DVR it? Curious minds want to know. Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on May 8, 2018 9:56:08 GMT -5
Petey...the team knew the score before the game even started...Celts have lost their last seven playoff games officiated by that crew...just wait until we play LeQueen...gonna be tough to watch
super early game here in the west, but I did not even bother to dvr it...knew how it was going to go...stopped watching the NBA for the down years of the Celts cuz it is so much like the WWF...watching now, but it is painful...you know the NBA steers it, and the refs know their job...
I assume Cleveland swept last night, so this was the only way the NBA could get one more game... elvis... sounds to me based on what you say that the NBA POs is based on the WWF model. So how is the next game going to go? Any reason to DVR it? Curious minds want to know. Pud Game at Boston, harder for refs to make those 'hometown' calls...hopefully we end this before Embid hurts somebody...maybe Morris or Monroe will send him to the floor early, a little bump for a message...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 8, 2018 10:02:20 GMT -5
Pud...I dvr it to watch early games when I get home, being that I live on the west coast...assume this game will run later cuz it is the only show in town...
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Post by puddin on May 8, 2018 10:40:53 GMT -5
elvis... sounds to me based on what you say that the NBA POs is based on the WWF model. So how is the next game going to go? Any reason to DVR it? Curious minds want to know. Pud Game at Boston, harder for refs to make those 'hometown' calls...hopefully we end this before Embid hurts somebody...maybe Morris or Monroe will send him to the floor early, a little bump for a message... Elvis.... are you suggesting that the Cs don't get the hometown calls that other teams get? Pud
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 8, 2018 10:42:17 GMT -5
Both teams shot 26 FT's. PHI made 20, we made 19. Total fouls - BOS 28, PHI 23. However, it's the TIMING of the fouls that comes into play here. Hubie Brown once said playing at home in the NBA is the single biggest advantage in all of sports. And, he's right. Can't totally blame the refs, as I agree with Petey, we did not match their desperation. I think Embiid is still looking for someone to punk, even though the game is over. Now is the time to come to BOS, shut Embiid up, hold Simmons down, and, oh, yeah, SOMEONE needs to cover McConnell!! Tomorrow is the night!
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Post by drewski6 on May 8, 2018 10:44:53 GMT -5
elvis, I'm a firm believer that officiating doesn't lose games for teams. There were some horrible calls on both teams......seemed like more on the Celtics. They tend to balance themselves out though. Only five more personal fouls were called on the Celtics than were on the Sixers. Both teams attempted 26 free throws. They outscored us by 1 point at the FT line. I know if you injected Adam Silver with truth serum, he'd admit to wanting the series to drag out to six or seven games. But honestly, better performances by Rozier, Horford and Brown would be enough to negate any NBA agenda last night. I'm sure the NBA wanted the CLE vs TOR series to go a few more games too but when you have players determined to end it, you get the result you saw in Cleveland - a resounding 35 point whupping of TOR. I trust we'll take care of business at TD tomorrow night. I agree with all of this. The refs had me mad last night for sure, but it was our terrible rebounding that sunk us. Philly went ice cold from the floor; however, considering they were getting 3-4 shots / possession, it really didnt seem to matter. Gotta close it out - I'm thinking guys could use a bit of a rest. Playing shorthanded will do that to you. Greg Monroe should not get another minute of playing time for this team.
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Post by drewski6 on May 8, 2018 10:49:36 GMT -5
It feels to me, that a lineup of:
Terry Smart Jaylen Tatum Horford
would outrebound a team of Terry Jaylen Tatum Horford Baynes
It seems silly to write- but I honestly think that going smaller might be the answer to our rebounding issues. Monroe and Baynes are doing more harm than good out there. If you cant have 2 of Tatum, Horford, Morris out there - I would go small.
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Post by Cabutan on May 8, 2018 12:21:49 GMT -5
elvis, I'm a firm believer that officiating doesn't lose games for teams. There were some horrible calls on both teams......seemed like more on the Celtics. They tend to balance themselves out though. Only five more personal fouls were called on the Celtics than were on the Sixers. Both teams attempted 26 free throws. They outscored us by 1 point at the FT line. I know if you injected Adam Silver with truth serum, he'd admit to wanting the series to drag out to six or seven games. But honestly, better performances by Rozier, Horford and Brown would be enough to negate any NBA agenda last night. I'm sure the NBA wanted the CLE vs TOR series to go a few more games too but when you have players determined to end it, you get the result you saw in Cleveland - a resounding 35 point whupping of TOR. I trust we'll take care of business at TD tomorrow night. I think though, that the 10 nothing run based on techs and crap, really swayed the momentum of the game until the end. But we should have come out from those tech's with some sort of physical presence and we didnt. Horford was really bad yesterday. He allowed Saric to shoot that 15 ft all by himself. Then no one switched when Rozier couldnt keep up with TJ. Some see Horford as the hero of this series, I see Tatum as the one really handling business consistently.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 8, 2018 14:07:01 GMT -5
I'd like to see Brown back starting. Hopefully Larkin is okay. With Larkin, Smart, Morris and Semi/Monroe, we should have a good enough bench to hold them down.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 8, 2018 20:53:42 GMT -5
Game at Boston, harder for refs to make those 'hometown' calls...hopefully we end this before Embid hurts somebody...maybe Morris or Monroe will send him to the floor early, a little bump for a message... Elvis.... are you suggesting that the Cs don't get the hometown calls that other teams get? Pud No, I meant that Philly got 'hometown' calls that actually were the NBA trying to get a game 5, 6, 7...the refs know their job...going to be harder to make those calls at the Gahden...
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Post by puddin on May 8, 2018 21:29:42 GMT -5
Elvis.... are you suggesting that the Cs don't get the hometown calls that other teams get? Pud No, I meant that Philly got 'hometown' calls that actually were the NBA trying to get a game 5, 6, 7...the refs know their job...going to be harder to make those calls at the Gahden... If the refs know their job, what difference does it make where the game is being played? Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on May 8, 2018 21:50:40 GMT -5
No, I meant that Philly got 'hometown' calls that actually were the NBA trying to get a game 5, 6, 7...the refs know their job...going to be harder to make those calls at the Gahden... If the refs know their job, what difference does it make where the game is being played? Pud Do you really get a kick out of being such a prick? eff you and the horse you rode in on...
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Post by puddin on May 9, 2018 7:11:00 GMT -5
If the refs know their job, what difference does it make where the game is being played? Pud Do you really get a kick out of being such a prick? eff you and the horse you rode in on... That's not a good look, amigo. Remember ^^ what mama sez. Pud
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Post by drboogiebone on May 9, 2018 15:39:25 GMT -5
Embiid should have been thrown out. He should have been awarded 3 technical fouls in that game. The TRo incident, staring down Morris on the dunk, and then jawing at Morris going up the court and on the other end. I think we all know what would have happened to our players if they did that. The refs didn't give him but 1 because the NBA is rigged. After that (the TRo tussle), they allowed him to get away with whatever he wanted in order to keep him in the game. They forced our team into foul trouble even though Phila was doing the same sh*t. The NBA forced a game 5. It was predetermined before the game even started. I don't blame the refs, it's the NBA. The zebras are just following orders.
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Post by puddin on May 9, 2018 17:51:12 GMT -5
Can anyone remember a game/series that the Cs were gifted rather than their opponents because the league was wanting to extend play, showcase talent or get more favorable match-ups for purposes of better TV ratings?
Asked another way, has a "rigged" NBA with zebras following orders and "doing their jobs" ever worked in favor of the Celtics?
Pud
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