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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2017 14:23:53 GMT -5
Once the playoffs, draft & free agency have ended I will attempt to transfer forum moderation to a board of peers who will be responsible for handling complaints, deciding upon warnings, suspensions and bannings so I can rid myself of too many responsibilities as well as the appearance of favoritism or discrimination as the case may be.
We will need at least three members to make up the board and obviously it is best that these members volunteer for the posts available or are nominated/elected by the membership (and agree to serve).
Consider this thread a place for discussion on moderation board make up and what rules & penalties you think should apply as some standard for the board to start with (though they will have ultimate decision with only "admin" advice/imput or final discretion if unable to come to a fair decision).
Moderators can be nominated here but they will have the right to accept or decline. Volunteers can do so here or by sending me a PM for further discussion before officially throwing their hat into the ring.
If we don't get more than three members willing to accept the job, there will be no need for an election process. In that event, admin will consider the potential for the volunteers to be unbiased and fair before appointing anyone to the board. If an uneven number of members is appointed, only then will "admin" become part of the board to break any "ties" that may develop on an "as needed" basis.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 28, 2017 10:52:25 GMT -5
No swearing or name calling
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 28, 2017 10:53:58 GMT -5
No gambling, or making "demands" of apologies
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Post by Employee8 on Apr 28, 2017 11:53:55 GMT -5
No swearing or name calling Let's not turn this into Sam's Celtics ... swearing (other than the "F" word) is an effective means to show emotion in print. Making personal attacks with or w/o swearing isn't acceptable ... agreed.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 28, 2017 11:57:33 GMT -5
No swearing or name calling Let's not turn this into Sam's Celtics ... swearing (other than the "F" word) is an effective means to show emotion in print. Making personal attacks with or w/o swearing isn't acceptable ... agreed. I meant only the F word.........or the C word......terrible words both.
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Post by puddin on May 5, 2017 7:01:29 GMT -5
Amigo... this thread is hard to find.
I just stumbled on it by accident.
You might want to find a better way to get the word out.
As the forum grows, you will need help in trying to keep things civil... agreed!
Pud
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Post by Admin on May 6, 2017 22:37:18 GMT -5
Amigo... this thread is hard to find. I just stumbled on it by accident. You might want to find a better way to get the word out. As the forum grows, you will need help in trying to keep things civil... agreed! Pud It's posted as an "announcement" and is tagged to every board in the forum ... almost impossible to miss unless you access "recent threads" or "last post" by board each time you visit.
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Post by Admin on Aug 16, 2017 17:08:32 GMT -5
So far I believe there has been one volunteer ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:01:52 GMT -5
Well it can't be me now can it? I would guess im the one that gets the most complaints. I've been making an attempt to make your job easier the past few weeks because i seen this coming.
Fierce is coming back soon to i assume that's why you posted today. I will volunteer along with Hedley who im sure is the only one.
Im really all against this you do a fine job i don't see anyone here or group making better decisions. Either way im not making any demands or expectations it's your choice and even if Hedley and Dubby get the job it's of little concern to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 21:05:01 GMT -5
I just stumbled across it to. Pud and I are older than dirt but he might have a point.
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Post by cole on Aug 17, 2017 21:47:22 GMT -5
I can be really fair, but I'm also a very conservative editor. I would rarely think anything on this forum needed moderating. But if someone came on here spamming or what not...
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Post by Admin on Aug 17, 2017 22:04:40 GMT -5
I posted as an update since I said I'd get to work on this once the season slowed down. I only recall getting 1-2 PMs on the subject with either or both volunteering (informally). I had a feeling there would be a dearth of volunteers for this job and that's why I haven't put much effort into it.
Anyone truly interested should post here so that once we have a minimum of 5-6 to choose from we can hold a vote with the three top vote getters winning (this may be a poor verb choice) the job.
If we only get a few volunteers then those considered most unbiased and level headed could be appointed by Admin (ME) to get this off the ground. Problems have been few of late so there hasn't been a rush to get this done but I haven't forgotten and in the long run it will be a good idea.
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Post by Admin on Aug 17, 2017 22:29:54 GMT -5
I can be really fair, but I'm also a very conservative editor. I would rarely think anything on this forum needed moderating. But if someone came on here spamming or what not... Most moderation comes to play with poor language or personal attacks ... some are let go and others are followed up with formal complaints. Those formal complaints are the ones that need to be adjudicated. Sometimes it's clear who the guilty party is but often there is antagonizing or both parties equally to blame and you have to decide what (if any) punishment is to be doled out. We do get new members that come here only to spam their wares or own site. I've had a photographer (from a prominent local newspaper) selling his historic Celtic photos posting his URL here as well as some other spammer trying to push his website as well. One member had a competing forum URL posted under his avatar. All of these were shut down. I don't mind giving credit to sites we use for content (I think it's only right to give them credit) or in the case of new startup BSJ, to advise members when they may not know about it and I think they could be interested and well served by checking it out. But those are the few exceptions to the rule. I think you are fair/level headed and since you sound a lot like me (wanting to keep moderation to a minimum and let parties air it out until it goes too far) then I think most here would agree you'd be a fine selection as a moderator. So if you want to formally volunteer I'll add you to the short list ...
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Post by Admin on Aug 17, 2017 22:36:42 GMT -5
Well it can't be me now can it? I would guess im the one that gets the most complaints. I've been making an attempt to make your job easier the past few weeks because i seen this coming. Fierce is coming back soon to i assume that's why you posted today. I will volunteer along with Hedley who im sure is the only one. Im really all against this you do a fine job i don't see anyone here or group making better decisions. Either way im not making any demands or expectations it's your choice and even if Hedley and Dubby get the job it's of little concern to me. Anyone can volunteer ... You may not get the job but the more the merrier. With more than 2-3 volunteers we will run an election. You never know. You could get the third most votes and beat out Hedley or Prakash for the third position ... or you may get no votes. Are you throwing your hat into the ring?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:14:39 GMT -5
I suppose i am. My vote goes to Cole however he's a better choice than me. Im still against this and i see the voting deviding the forum and causing more problems than exsist now. You need a break so im not putting up a fight.
If Hedley or Dubby are running im in . I perfer Cole Pud and Croc or the Dr B over the three of us.
I'll be offering a fun week in the mountains of Nicaguara all expenses paid if you vote for me. Is this fair? I can't hand out my 24 year old single malt on line.?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 10:30:34 GMT -5
About when would you expect to start voting im moving in two weeks and will likely take a week maybe two to get service . No Starbucks where im going or internet cafe's.
Just a guess is ok i know this is in the early stages i believe. Will Fierce be back then? You seen who took his side last time. This didn't sit well with me as he was undermining the whole forum and the cheerleaders were cheering for him.
I see a can of worms opening up. In all honestly if that happens again folks will leave here at least this guy will.
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2017 17:09:56 GMT -5
About when would you expect to start voting im moving in two weeks and will likely take a week maybe two to get service . No Starbucks where im going or internet cafe's. Just a guess is ok i know this is in the early stages i believe. Will Fierce be back then? You seen who took his side last time. This didn't sit well with me as he was undermining the whole forum and the cheerleaders were cheering for him. I see a can of worms opening up. In all honestly if that happens again folks will leave here at least this guy will. Voting won't happen until we get the bulk of our posters back. My guess would be when preseason or regular season games commence. Just preparing a list for now to make sure we have some volunteers when the time comes. Right now I have the following volunteers; Cole Prakash DFries Hedley Pud ( ) Please correct me if I'm wrong ... Do you miss Fierce? I think he was put on extended stay but that's an issue the moderators can take up when they take over. If they or the forum posters want to reinstate him then take responsibility that's alright with me. I think we are better off w/o him and the few times I've checked his contributions to the other forum down the street I haven't been impressed or felt that we were missing out on anything. But I will leave that up to the majority going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 18:14:47 GMT -5
Oh lord the list from hell. No i don't miss Fierce just thinking down the road a little bit. I see his two biggest supporters on the list no great suprise there.
I really don't want the job but i can't stand by and let Dubby and Hedley take over. Personally i would make Cole moderator without voting. The other choices including me aren't good. Pud is too old doughtful he would last a full term. King Cole sounds great to me forget the voting.
How long is a term and who terminates the moderator if he's not fair?
Yes im making this hard for you my that is my intention.
Sense i am running my offer of an all expense paid week in the mountains of Nicaragua is for real. I see no rules on trying to buy votes. After September 1st folks its on me for fun times. PM me to schedule your vacation.
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Post by cole on Aug 18, 2017 21:21:14 GMT -5
I vote for prakash
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2017 22:29:03 GMT -5
You having a change of heart already? Don't worry ... you'd be the only moderator only if we didn't have enough for three, but we do! Comment for the Forum; In fact, if it were up to me, I'd pick the two I feel are best qualified with myself as the tie-breaker. I already have the two I'd go with but I agreed to have an election so we will see how it goes. If it fails or you'd rather trust in my decision making we can always opt out of the election and go with my two and me ... Maybe that would make it easy on everyone.
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2017 22:33:54 GMT -5
Oh lord the list from hell. No i don't miss Fierce just thinking down the road a little bit. I see his two biggest supporters on the list no great suprise there. I really don't want the job but i can't stand by and let Dubby and Hedley take over. Personally i would make Cole moderator without voting. The other choices including me aren't good. Pud is too old doughtful he would last a full term. King Cole sounds great to me forget the voting. How long is a term and who terminates the moderator if he's not fair? Yes im making this hard for you my that is my intention. Sense i am running my offer of an all expense paid week in the mountains of Nicaragua is for real. I see no rules on trying to buy votes. After September 1st folks its on me for fun times. PM me to schedule your vacation. We haven't discussed terms but a basketball season would be good with automatic renewal if willing to serve again and less than a majority of objections. Naturally the Admin will consult or act as tie-breaker and have the authority to terminate. Have you registered as a PAC yet?
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Post by hedleylamarr on Aug 18, 2017 22:56:23 GMT -5
Would the people who are interested have any platform to discuss their qualifications with other posters?
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Post by Admin on Aug 18, 2017 23:23:10 GMT -5
Would the people who are interested have any platform to discuss their qualifications with other posters? Right here ... Feel free to make a speech or put forth your qualifications and any ideas/rules you'd bring to the forum if elected. Or, I could set up a subthread under this heading for each candidate to present himself and respond to questions.
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Post by cole on Aug 19, 2017 6:59:09 GMT -5
You having a change of heart already? Don't worry ... you'd be the only moderator only if we didn't have enough for three, but we do! Comment for the Forum; In fact, if it were up to me, I'd pick the two I feel are best qualified with myself as the tie-breaker. I already have the two I'd go with but I agreed to have an election so we will see how it goes. If it fails or you'd rather trust in my decision making we can always opt out of the election and go with my two and me ... Maybe that would make it easy on everyone. I'm not withdrawing. I just think better if the protagonists aren't moderators. I like everybody here, but prakash stays above the fray.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 11:46:31 GMT -5
Im with you on picking the two and you as a moderator. Prakash stays above the fray? Not entirely true. No Nat King Cole? Too bad.
Hedley and i definately should be disqualified. Platform? Qualifications? Geez No i havn't registered as PAC and i think it's in everone's best interest if i withdraw. That is an official withdraw. Have at it i not even voting. I can handle what ever happens its no big deal. Not sure how Dubby or Hedley could moniter me when im on ignore but im sure they will work it out. I know who the two are you prefer and i agree with you.
You can still have a free week in Nic anytime you want and im serious. Offer is off the table to all others.
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